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Post by winterjasmine on Nov 12, 2011 16:23:52 GMT -5
I mean, for me "first draft" means the moment I get a full timeline of clips, and I hit export and then sit there and go, "hee, first draft done!" can I ask, why do you export at that point? So far I have only exported at the end when the vid is 'done' and ready to be shared. I've read some other people referring to this, is it so you can send it to a beta, or is there some other function that is served by exporting at the end of the draft stage? Jaz |
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Post by thatyourefuse on Nov 12, 2011 16:33:12 GMT -5
... trying not to acquire bunnies for text-only sources, mostly. (No, brain, I don't care if Bright Eyes' "Sunrise, Sunset" could actually have been written about the Doctrine of Labyrinths series, we can't vid books.)
In terms of things that may actually someday exist in this universe... I have eight saved WMM projects. I may need help.
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Post by nos on Nov 12, 2011 18:32:30 GMT -5
I love that song! That would be brilliant to see. Will it be multi-doctor or concentrate on one incarnation? It will hopefully be all three incarnations from New Who, depending on the major factor of me getting enough Nine source  |
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Post by nos on Nov 12, 2011 18:32:50 GMT -5
Nos stop stealing my vid ideas before I have them. Great minds! Hee. |
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 12, 2011 19:33:59 GMT -5
obsessive24 can I ask, why do you export at that point? So far I have only exported at the end when the vid is 'done' and ready to be shared. I've read some other people referring to this, is it so you can send it to a beta, or is there some other function that is served by exporting at the end of the draft stage? Mostly because my timeline preview isn't always smooth, and I've found that sometimes a vid has a very different feel when it's being played straight through full-size versus me watching it in Vegas' tiny preview window. A lot of the time I do a bit on the timeline and think, that's gonna look great and kick ass, but when I export it and watch the export, it really doesn't look awesome at all. Also, there can be some slight timing discrepancies (like 1 or 2 frames, I've found) depending on what video format you export to, so I like to check that the timing works fine in the format that I will end up posting online, and adjust the timeline accordingly if necessary. thatyourefuse - try telling that to me and my brain.  It's sometimes even worse when you do eventually get the film/TV adaptation and it looks nothing like how you envisioned it in your head.  and some others simply because I don't feel like a vid would be necessary. *nods* That's me with most cable shows. I love Mad Men and Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire to pieces, but they're just so nuanced and complete already that I feel absolutely no need to add my voice to any sort of interpretation of it. And I've been the same, these last months or so, about no longer hearing music and immediately thinking how it could be vidded! It's so strange because once upon a time it was all I could think about. And even stranger thinking back to the time before that when vidding wouldn't even enter the equation. |
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Post by eunice on Nov 12, 2011 19:40:33 GMT -5
Mostly because my timeline preview isn't always smooth, and I've found that sometimes a vid has a very different feel when it's being played straight through full-size versus me watching it in Vegas' tiny preview window. A lot of the time I do a bit on the timeline and think, that's gonna look great and kick ass, but when I export it and watch the export, it really doesn't look awesome at all. What you said. Things very often play differently when you're watching them as a whole vs. in pieces on the timeline. For me it also helps me step back and look at things big picture, where I tend to hyperfocus on whatever five seconds I'm working on in the timeline otherwise. Also, I can set an export to play on a loop and sometimes I will get my best ideas watching it repeatedly and letting my subconscious fill in the blank spot or worry over the thing that doesn't look right until it comes up with a solution and lets me know what it is.  |
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Post by rhoboat on Nov 13, 2011 3:30:30 GMT -5
Mostly because my timeline preview isn't always smooth, I like seeing full sections rendered too, but I was wondering you've tried rendering to RAM for timeline previews in Vegas yet? You can highlight a small section of your timeline and hit Shift+B. That section will render to RAM and should play more smoothly. I like using this method for tweaking timing and the like where seeing the whole vid rendered isn't really necessary. |
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Post by gnattery on Nov 13, 2011 3:36:25 GMT -5
rhoboat - That can be helpful since it's so quick, but a chunk of it is deleted as soon as you change anything, so it's a bit limited. Also, while it is smoother than the normal preview, the timing's still not exactly the same as the rendered file, and it's still fairly small. I use it for tiny sections, then when I really want to see what's going on I export properly.
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Post by legoline on Nov 13, 2011 3:39:15 GMT -5
Mostly because my timeline preview isn't always smooth, and I've found that sometimes a vid has a very different feel when it's being played straight through full-size versus me watching it in Vegas' tiny preview window. A lot of the time I do a bit on the timeline and think, that's gonna look great and kick ass, but when I export it and watch the export, it really doesn't look awesome at all. What you said. Things very often play differently when you're watching them as a whole vs. in pieces on the timeline. For me it also helps me step back and look at things big picture, where I tend to hyperfocus on whatever five seconds I'm working on in the timeline otherwise. I second that. I tend to export a vid everytime I've added another tend or twenty seconds just to get a feel for it and how the new bit looks in context in the bigger version. |
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Post by rhoboat on Nov 13, 2011 4:02:35 GMT -5
rhoboat - That can be helpful since it's so quick, but a chunk of it is deleted as soon as you change anything, so it's a bit limited. Also, while it is smoother than the normal preview, the timing's still not exactly the same as the rendered file, and it's still fairly small. I use it for tiny sections, then when I really want to see what's going on I export properly. I think the timing should pretty much be the same in RAM preview if your preview window/project framerate is set the same as what's in your final rendered video? Not entirely sure. Yeah, if you move things around, that'll negate whatever's been saved to RAM. That just means I hit Shift+B quite a lot. ;D But yeah, if I really want to see what's going on, I render entire sections too. Nothing like seeing a vid come together in fullscreen. |
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Post by winterjasmine on Nov 13, 2011 4:20:50 GMT -5
Mostly because my timeline preview isn't always smooth, and I've found that sometimes a vid has a very different feel when it's being played straight through full-size versus me watching it in Vegas' tiny preview window. A lot of the time I do a bit on the timeline and think, that's gonna look great and kick ass, but when I export it and watch the export, it really doesn't look awesome at all. Also, there can be some slight timing discrepancies (like 1 or 2 frames, I've found) depending on what video format you export to, so I like to check that the timing works fine in the format that I will end up posting online, and adjust the timeline accordingly if necessary. Okay, that makes perfect sense. Thanks! obsessive24 and everyone else who weighed in iMovie HD has a full screen preview / playback option, so that's not an issue for me. I've not noticed any timing problems either yet, but I'll bare it in mind for future reference! Jaz |
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 13, 2011 6:30:14 GMT -5
rho - basically what gnat said - the rendering to RAM helps to a certain extent, but it's the changing-as-soon-as-you-move-anything that really annoys me because if I'm having trouble previewing it, it means it's usually a complicated layery bit in the timeline anyway, and even pre-render takes quite a lot of time. So having to do it every time I move something a frame over really irks me. I just end up playing it blind until I do my final nightly export, and fixing it the next day.
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Post by thedothatgirl on Nov 13, 2011 9:38:51 GMT -5
thedothatgirl - A Spike and Dru vid would be lovely. Can't wait to see it. For a long while I kept wanting to vid Angelus and Spike and Dru (and maybe Darla) to NIN's "With Teeth", but that never panned out. I wonder why, it's still an appealling idea. Could I ask you to please pimp Vid Pub the next time you update the AVAs? It'd be much appreciated. Oh thanks, I love the idea of the NIN vid so when you have the energy to get all the source together you really should do it. Please ? I was thinking about pimping the VidPub at AvA, my site, LJ etc - do we have pretty codes or would you like me to make some? If not I'll do a text link. |
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 13, 2011 9:44:45 GMT -5
If you're willing to make pretty codes, by all means please do! That would be lovely. But don't feel compelled to or anything. |
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Post by thuviaptarth on Nov 13, 2011 12:19:45 GMT -5
I am so excited to see that Fringe vids are in progress, and that not everyone is bored out their skulls with Supernatural. Although I still feel like every single clip in my Supernatural vid-in-progress has been used before. I keep having to tell myself that I am doing this vid because I have wanted to for a long time, even if no one else wants to see it.
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It's sometimes even worse when you do eventually get the film/TV adaptation and it looks nothing like how you envisioned it in your head. 
