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Post by rhoboat on Dec 7, 2011 12:25:45 GMT -5
Nicky - As far as I know, you can't frameserve directly into Vegas. You have to "trick" it with an AVI wrapper. I have an old tutorial here: rhoboat.livejournal.com/61112.htmlOff the top of my head, I can't recall if this method works in 64-bit Vegas. I know it worked in 32-bit Vegas 6 on my 64-bit computer. There's also VFAPI which I tried before on my old 32-bit machine. Lemme get back to you when I can get to my computer at home. I'm currently typing this on my phone at work. ;D
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:37:31 GMT -5
Nicky - As far as I know, you can't frameserve directly into Vegas. You have to "trick" it with an AVI wrapper. That's what I meant. I tried doing it in Movie Studio 10 64-bit, and it won't let me. I know you definitely can with 32-bit Vegas Pro 9, so will be keen to learn whether you can with 64-bit Vegas Pro 9.
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 7, 2011 16:12:10 GMT -5
Okay, here's a question. How do you remove interlacing when exporting from Vegas? Is there a setting in the output template that specifically requires changing? I vid with .vob files ripped straight from DVD, and have had this issue with the last couple of vids I've done. I output to PAL DV, or PAL DV Widescreen, depending on what my DVD source was. This gives me a file of around 700MB-1GB for a completed vid, and visually the quality seems the same as the original source. Except for the fact that the last few have exported looking interlaced, though the source looked fine in the timeline. I've been getting around this by removing the interlacing in Handbrake when I compress the file to web-friendly size, so it's not a huge deal, but I would like my master file to look nicer if I want to watch it full screen on my telly, or on my 30" Mac cinema display.
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Post by rhoboat on Dec 8, 2011 3:09:42 GMT -5
Nicky - Argh, now I remember why I haven't used AviSynth except with VDub lately. My fake AVIs wouldn't open in Vegas 9 64-bit. If I ever find another way, I'll let you know. littleheaven - In your output file, for the "field order" section, are you using "progressive scan"?
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 8, 2011 3:26:56 GMT -5
Rho - thanks for confirming. One of these days I'll get around to seeing if a 64-bit wrapper has been developed, but it's not today. Weirdly, I'm just having the same interlacing issues with VOB source. Tis very annoying. I'm exporting with progressive scan, and in the Project Properties I've got "deinterlace method: blend fields". Neither is doing anything useful. Right now it's forcing me to deinterlace the source before I edit it, which is probably good practice anyway, but after so long without an interlacing problem, suddenly having it again is annoying. And I can't just magically fix it with avisynth in pre-production.
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 8, 2011 3:37:02 GMT -5
littleheaven - In your output file, for the "field order" section, are you using "progressive scan"? Thanks, I will try that! Nicky, it's odd because I never used to have issues when making Buffy & Angel vids direct from the .vob files. Maybe it's peculiar to newer versions?
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 8, 2011 4:59:21 GMT -5
Your Buffy/Angel DVDs were NTSC and interlaced, right? See, I would have thought that if anything were to give you interlacing problems, it would be that combination. But instead I find it's the region 4 rips I've done recently that's problematic. So you're probably right it's something to do with how newer DVDs are encoded. It's just annoying as I had it all figured out in Premiere, and now I'm back to square one again.
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 8, 2011 6:12:32 GMT -5
Your Buffy/Angel DVDs were NTSC and interlaced, right? No, they were PAL, region 4, as are the other sources I've had issues with (Secretary and another source which shall remain nameless until the Festivids reveal). The interlacing is easily removed after the vid has been output, but it's just one of those things that would be nice to be able to fix. Mysteries bug me. I'm going to have a fiddle with the output settings tomorrow if I get time.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 8, 2011 7:10:30 GMT -5
How do you post-processing deinterlace in Handbrake? Just thinking I might have to have that up my sleeve if my pre-production clean-up don't pan out. And, if you come up with a solution in-program, do let us know!! ;D
Edited to add: just remembered that I made Falling Down for you earlier this year in Vegas, and it exported absolutely fine, even though I too have the Region 4 PAL DVDs. WTF, right? Especially because the BtVS s1 - 3 source was interlaced to all hell when I used to edit them in Premiere and I had to fix them in pre-production with avisynth. But Vegas had no problem with them at all...
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 8, 2011 15:48:45 GMT -5
Frustrating, isn't it? There seems to be no rhyme or reason to what does it and when.
Anyhow, just to make life exciting Handbrake have just updated the programme and it took me a bit to find where the "deinterlace" function had gone - but I've located it, and assume it still works as well as ever.
I'm going from the Mac version but guess the Windows one is the same. You import your source, hit the "picture settings" button at the top of the Handbrake window, and you'll see a slider that says "decomb - deinterlace." Slide it to the deinterlace side, then the drop-down menu below will switch to the deinterlace settings and you can adjust them there. You can also fix aspect ratio issues, if your export comes out slightly off.
I love Handbrake. It's my go-to programme for converting large avi or mov files to internet-friendly ones. They always come out lovely quality and it's relatively simple to use.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 8, 2011 15:59:14 GMT -5
Thanks! I shall keep it in reserve in case I need it.
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 8, 2011 16:14:20 GMT -5
Thanks! I shall keep it in reserve in case I need it. You can never have too many of these programmes in your arsenal ;D
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Post by legoline on Dec 17, 2011 17:38:32 GMT -5
This may sound silly but...if I bought version 11.0 of Movie Studio, I would still be able to use the projects created with version 10.0 ... right?
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 17, 2011 18:47:13 GMT -5
I think yes in theory, but that's probably something best to ask Sony tech support in respect of your specific operating system etc.
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 17, 2011 23:23:48 GMT -5
Like Nicky said, best check with the experts. I will say that in my experience you can open old projects in newer versions but not new projects in older versions. The good thing with Vegas is that when you upgrade, it installs the new version whole, so if you need to you can still run the old version. I have movie studio platinum 10 and 11 on my laptop at the moment. I assume the old one still works, because occasionally I open something in it by mistake.
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