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Post by legoline on Nov 13, 2011 2:36:44 GMT -5
I've recently stumbled across a nifty little program called "Format Factoy". I use it to convert mkvs to VOB files which I then clip using Virtual Dub Mod since I can't for my life get the mkv converted directly to an avi-file that SonyVegas can work with.
ANYWAY. That program is freeware and it does convert about everything to everything. It does convert to MPEG, however I don't know if it converts to MPEG-4 or MPEG-2.
Another freeware program that does converting is Avidemux.
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 13, 2011 6:57:08 GMT -5
It actually converts to VOB? That'd be really helpful for me because VOBs run smoothest in my version of Vegas. Mine hates all manner of AVIs so it's strange hearing so many people say they edit with AVIs because I just wouldn't be able to do that. Thanks legoline! Def gonna check out Format Factory.
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Post by legoline on Nov 13, 2011 7:00:29 GMT -5
I was going bonkers because no matter what I did the mkv files would only convert to avi files that SonyVegas couldn't read. So at long last I found Format Factory and converted the files to VOB (and then clipped them using VirtualDub Mod) and they worked fine with SonyVegas :-) I was frowning at that "Convert to VOB" button for a while too, but...it converted it to VOB perfectly.
Yay! Glad to be of help.
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Post by gnattery on Nov 13, 2011 20:39:41 GMT -5
I just tried converting the source to MPEG2, and wow... everything just works. Even little seemingly unrelated bugs (like it ignoring me when I push the arrow buttons to move along a frame) are gone now. This is going to make everything so much easier, thanks. XD
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 14, 2011 12:06:07 GMT -5
That's great to know! Don't know how you've been vidding with DVD source, but I just use the VOBs in those cases and they work very well too (albeit takes up HD space). AVIs by comparison have been very problematic for me - to the extent I can't even get started.
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Post by legoline on Dec 1, 2011 12:53:14 GMT -5
I'm working with VOBs in Vegas for the first time and oy, the amount of time saved is amazing ;D I've run across a small problem, though. I usually deinterlace in VirtualDubMod whilst clipping. Now that I'm directly importing the VOBs I'm not sure how to fix the "interlacedness". A quick research on google came up with various tutorials (up to, "Don't even bother trying with Movie Studio") so I'm a bit confused now. What's the best way? Do you deinterlace in Movie Studio or do you deinterlace afterwards using some magical program that I haven't heard of yet? EDIT Oh look! Another problem! TWhen I put clips from the second VOB on my timeline, it completely mutes the underlying music. I have no idea why it does that? There's a screenshot here: img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/oh_so_blue/sonyvegasyetagain.jpg (The pink is my emphasis to show where the muted music begins. The clip before that were from an avi file) When I try to delete the clip's own sound it deletes the entire clip from the timeline Does anyone know what's going on here?
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 2, 2011 3:00:16 GMT -5
1- Not sure about interlacing, I've only worked with progressive source in Vegas so far. Lemme have a think and get back to you. Can you export a little chunk of vid that shows the interlacing problem, and also your export settings? What is the source that you're using?
2 - When you select the clip from the trimmer window, but before you drag it to the timeline, right-click on the selection on the trimmer and you should be able to see options of Video + Audio, or Video Only, or Audio Only. Set it to Video Only. You need to redo this every time you re-open the source in the trimmer.
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Post by legoline on Dec 2, 2011 13:39:17 GMT -5
1) Eh, I realised that for some reason I used the avi-file of the film I grabbed of the internets, not the VOB one, which I guess explains the interlacing *coff* However, if you export the file to wmv rather than avi the stripes are gone in the exported file. And I guess you can just import that one to SV again and save it to avi.
2) \0/ It worked! THANK YOU! ;D
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 2, 2011 13:51:50 GMT -5
I wasn't sure why you would be having interlacing problems regardless? A couple of points:
If you go to File >> Properties, on the "Video" tab there is a box called Deinterlace Method. If you select "Blend Fields", it should in theory take care of any interlacing issues you may have from the source.
Make sure to export with Field Order = None (progressive scan)
Hopefully that should solve any interlacing problems.
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Post by legoline on Dec 3, 2011 6:46:39 GMT -5
I wasn't sure why you would be having interlacing problems regardless? I really don't know. But thank you for the pointers! I've replaced the clips with the VOB clips now and set it to "Blend Fields" etc, looks good so far But. (I promise, I really do, to return the favour of answering technical questions whenever I can, really!). When I export the video it has these extra black bars which are a little annoying, because they're not really black, more dark-grey-ish, so when I play the file it looks like two sets of bars, one grey and one black (because the players add some of their own as well): My festvid doesn't have them, even though I vidded a wide-screen source, too. Is this a case of super wide screen or did I do something wrong while exporting the file? Here are my project properties: img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/a_moth/eagle_export.jpg (In German, but I guess numbers just remain numbers ;-) ) Is there a way to get rid of them? I looked at other fanvids that use movies as their source and noticed Charmax's Narnia vid has extremely bold black bars, too. I would guess she used a masking technique to at least get uniform black bars at the top and bottom instead of dark grey+black, but I'm really not sure. Any help is greatly appreciated
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 3, 2011 6:57:07 GMT -5
Movies are "super wide screen" as you put it, so I'm not surprised. You can get rid of them if you are willing to use avisynth and virtualdub. What codec are you exporting to at the moment? I suggest exporting a Lagarith AVI out of Vegas first, then I can walk you through the avisynth script, if you're interested.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 3, 2011 7:03:19 GMT -5
Actually, I had another thought. Before you do anything else, try changing your project settings to 720 x 306. What happens? Because if your source doesn't have black bars to begin with, then it's just a problem with you having a 720x 480 setting and the above will fix it. But some sources have their own black bars (which I'm assuming is the case because as you said it's not black-black), then the above won't help, and we have to manually crop them out in avisynth. Another point out of interest: are you using DVD source? A German DVD? The fullscreen specs shouldn't be 720x480 because that's North American NTSC standard. If you're using a European DVD, the project should be set to 720x576.Forget about that, I see what's going on now and it's not relevant. Don't want to confuse you with too many things.
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Post by legoline on Dec 3, 2011 7:07:55 GMT -5
Movies are "super wide screen" as you put it, so I'm not surprised. I'm just a bit confused because I've vidded a movie before and it didn't have the extra black bars? Oh, I'm definitely willing to use Avysinth and VirtualDub If you could walk me through it, that would be fantastic! Uhm. Well. I have Lagarith installed on my computer. I'm just...not sure how to chose the codec in SonyVegas? I usually exported the video as it is, in all its 200MB glory, and then I converted it to a smaller XVid file using Avidemux. (There are probably easier ways, I know, but since this one has always worked for me I was too lazy to figure anything else out.)
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 3, 2011 7:28:48 GMT -5
I'm just a bit confused because I've vidded a movie before and it didn't have the extra black bars? Different DVDs have different encoding methods, so what worked for one movie before might not work for another. Not sure if you saw my second post after the first; I suggest you first scroll up and read what I said about changing project settings and seeing if that makes a difference. If that works, that'd be awesome, but I have a feeling it won't because it looks like the black bars are actually in your source. You might not know what codec you're using, but that size definitely suggests the vid's being compressed by some codec. An actual uncompressed AVI would be several gigabytes. To view and change codecs: 1. File >> Render As 2. New window appears. Select AVI in the dropdown. 3. Select the "custom" button on the right-hand-side, like so. 4. New window appears. Select your preferred codec from the dropdown, like so. Hopefully Lagarith will be one of your options. Then just OK your way out of there and render. The export should be around 1GB.
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Post by amnisias on Dec 3, 2011 7:31:25 GMT -5
I wasn't sure where best to put this item, feel free to move the post to wherever you think it should be.
My hard drive gave out last week, and since fixing it would come in at around 200 pounds I'm considering going for a new machine instead. I'm vidding on Sony Vegas Pro 8 and that seems to run okay on my dual processor 2GB RAM machine (we're talking PC). However, I might consider upgrading to SVP 11 at some point. The consesus view seems to be that for NLE multi-core processors are the gold standard, but they are also what drives the price up.
Who of you vids on dual core and who on multi-core? (independant of vidding programme used). Is there a real difference worth the extra investment?
Any particular advise re: i3, i5 or i7?
Anybody who has actual experience with SVP11 (or 10)
Any other advise with regards to getting a new vidding machine 'fit for the future'?
I'm currently looking specifically into HP machines. I used to have Dell the last couple of times and was very happy with them, but they've been bought up by HP, it seems. What are people's experiences with those?
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