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Post by legoline on Dec 3, 2011 7:33:05 GMT -5
I did play around with various aspect/ratio sizes and it didn't seem to matter. I even tried clipping them with VirtualDub first but it seems the black bars are in the source. Foo. Aha!!! The wonders of SonyVegas. ;D (It was actually compressing the file to MPEG-4. Who would've known?) I remembered correctly, I did have Lagarith installed and I'm exporting the file to it now It's a short song so it's "only" 700MB.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 3, 2011 7:49:56 GMT -5
amnisias - I know nothing useful about hardware, sorry. ;D If you don't get a satisfactory answer here, maybe try starting a specific Vidding Hardware thread? Legoline - here's the script to crop. Don't worry about the second two lines, that's colour-tweaking. Just need the first two. AVISource("put the path to your lagarith file here") Crop() will crop the top and bottom for you, 54 pixels from the top and 54 pixels from the bottom. These are the specs I'm using for my HP vid, but you might need to adjust yours if it doesn't crop everything. Just adjust it, e.g. Crop(0, 52, 0, -52) or Crop(0, 56, 0, -56) until it just crops off the black borders. Make sure all adjustments are increments of 2. It doesn't work to have odd numbers like 53. Two ways of previewing it to see how well you're cropping. If you're doing the avs in AVSP, then there should be an automatic preview. If you're doing it in notepad like I am, you need to load the .avs into Virtualdub to preview.
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Post by legoline on Dec 3, 2011 8:12:25 GMT -5
Okay. So I installed AsvP and copied what you wrote exactly, except of course I used my folder path. And now I feel like, "Now what am I supposed to do?" There is no preview in the AvsP--when I push "play" I get an error message. Am I supposed to load the avi file into the script? (I get an error message then, too.) I can preview it in Virtual Dub Mod. Yay And then I can save a bar-less avi file from there? And, this is probably the dumbest question ever asked, but--I still don't get what Avisynth does exactly. I mean, I know there's this avs file with the commands but how does that help the avi-file? Won't the vid change again as soon as you export it to XVid or upload it where there is no avs script? EDIT: Okay, I saved a 2GB bar-less (\0/) file from VirtualDubMod. ;D Wheeee!!!!! amnisias I'm not tech savvy at all. All I can tell you is that my computer is a dual core and SV works fine
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 3, 2011 8:17:54 GMT -5
Here's the thing: you don't load the AVI into Virtualdub for your next step. You load the .avs script. So all the commands you write will come through in Virtualdub and when you export out of Virtualdub. I haven't used AsvP so can't tell you what's wrong there. Suggest you just create a new .txt document, put in these two lines, then change the .txt filetype to .avs. Then, are you able to load the .avs into Virtualdub?
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 3, 2011 8:19:23 GMT -5
Okay, just saw your edit. Yes, you can export a new AVI out of Virtualdub. Play with the Video >> Compression if you want (maybe Lagarith again) then you should be able to just export normally using your normal converter to Xvid. Did 54 pixels work? Might be useful to try some other numbers to get it exactly right.
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Post by legoline on Dec 3, 2011 8:20:59 GMT -5
@obsessive24: Ah, my post edit and your post overlapped ;D I loaded the avs into VDM and then saved the file again. Bars are gone!!! \0/ File is frickin' HUGE now but I suppose I can compress that with Avidemux or SV? Anyways, THANK YOU! \0/
Just a question--couldn't I use eunice's tutorial about getting multiple files into one big file like this? Write the script, then save the file from Virtual Dub Mod and use that file in SV since I can't load the avisynth script into SV?
The 54 px look fine but I'll try a couple other variations, too. AWESOMECAKES. I'll copy and print this tutorial, it's so useful!
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 3, 2011 8:28:59 GMT -5
Glad to help! ;D Yes, I think the easiest way for you would be to now compress your huge file using Avidemux like you'd normally do. I don't use Avidemux, so let me know if you run into problems and I can recommend different software (or different export settings out of Virtualdub).
Not sure I understand your question - do you mean you would use avisynth to clean up your source, so the source itself doesn't have black bars? Yes, I think that's fine, except if you convert your entire source, that file is going to be absolutely huge. But if you have enough space and RAM, that should be fine.
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Post by legoline on Dec 3, 2011 8:32:23 GMT -5
Hmmm, it seems Avidemux can't read the file now. Is there a program that can? Otherwise I'll just import it back to SV and export using a different codec, I suppose?
No, what I meant is, in her tutorial eunice used Avisynth to crop all files of Doctor Who at the same time, and I think she also merged them into one big file? I was just wondering if that would work for me if I loaded the script into Virtual Dub Mod, exported it to avi from there and then used that file in SV. (I should have enough space in theory. I'll let you know once I start vidding the Christmas gift for my friend *gg*)
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 3, 2011 8:38:21 GMT -5
Both your paragraphs actually are about the same thing: what codec are you exporting out of Virtualdub. It sounds like you're exporting an absolutely huge (several GB?) completely uncompressed AVI, so I'm not surprised Avidemux can't work with it. Try re-exporting from Virtualdub, but before you Save As AVI, go to Video >> Compression. Since Avidemux worked with MPEG-4 codec before, suggest you try that first. Otherwise Lagarith should be a good bet as well. As for your second paragraph - yes, you can do it in theory, but if your 4 minute vid is several GB, imagine how big an entire season of Doctor Who is going to be.
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Post by legoline on Dec 3, 2011 8:45:51 GMT -5
Oh, okay. Note to self: remember to choose codecs I'll try again, but I'm actually off now to a friend for the afternoon. Thank you so much for your help and your patience! (Brief edit before I dash off) Just to let you know it works fine in Avidemux now. \0/ YAY! ;D
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Post by gnattery on Dec 7, 2011 7:43:04 GMT -5
Okay so I have a question. I'm thinking of upgrading from the 32-bit version of Vegas 9 to the 64-bit version of Vegas 11. Does anyone know if there are any compatibility issues due to either the newer version, or the change in architecture? Does 11 still use the .veg file type? Can the 64-bit version open and use a file saved with a 32-bit version?
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 7, 2011 7:46:16 GMT -5
I'm using a 64-bit build, but I'm on Vegas Movie Studio, not Pro, so not sure if the project compatibility carries over.
I'm gonna ask a stupid question though: why not just finish up what you're doing in Vegas 9 first? To me it just seems like it's never a good idea to transition new software/hardware when you're in the middle of a project. Too many things potentially can go wrong. Even if everybody told me I can transition smoothly, I still would be loath to do it on principle alone. ;D
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Post by gnattery on Dec 7, 2011 7:56:48 GMT -5
Because I'm always in the middle of half a dozen projects at once. There is literally no time when I'm not working on something, and I'm sick of Vegas not using all the RAM I have sitting there doing nothing, while it's shuddering its way though playing a file. I'll have to upgrade sometime, it may as well be now!
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Post by rhoboat on Dec 7, 2011 11:07:31 GMT -5
gnattery, maybe try upgrading to the 64-bit version of Vegas 9 first and see if that helps? That is, if you're really keen on upgrading now.
I've gone from 32-bit Vegas 6 to 64-bit Vegas Pro 9 and I could open up the old project files in the newer version. But once those files were saved, I couldn't open them again in the old Vegas. Also, I ran into codec compatibility issues in the switch. For example, I used to use HuffyUV AVIs but those files didn't read in 64-bit Vegas. The HuffyUV codec I had only worked on 32-bit systems.
Food for thought?
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 7, 2011 11:40:49 GMT -5
Rho - out of interest, can you still frameserve with avisynth in 64-bit Vegas Pro 9?
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