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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 15, 2011 8:16:57 GMT -5
when I get stuck on a spot, sometimes I just play around with clips there or elsewhere on the timeline, and just try to get them to look cool with the music rather than work with the idea or narrative. Usually I delete them, but seeing an action sequence (or whatever) fit perfectly with the music and think, "I made that happen!" always cheers me up and often seems to give me a fresh perspective on my problem spot. I do that on occasion, but usually in a different vid, not a different spot in the same vid. Because once I've got that nice sequence down, it feels like a waste to have gone to the effort only to delete it. At least if I do it in a different "no narrative, only musicality" vid, I end up with hopefully two vids instead of, you know, one vid with big chunks worked-on-then-deleted.. ;D |
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Post by gnattery on Dec 15, 2011 9:20:18 GMT -5
Well I still only have half a timeline for my FNL vid, so I'm almost certain that I won't finish it in time for DPTM. On the other hand, this is the fastest I've ever vidded, by a lot, so that's an accomplishment in itself. If it ends up taking me less than a month then it'll be a huge improvement on my vidding speed.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 15, 2011 9:48:20 GMT -5
Hurray for improvements to speed! Even if you don't make the current theme, you could still just enter it for a normal round.  |
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Post by fabella on Dec 15, 2011 12:11:45 GMT -5
I'm over that little hump. I think I'm in love with my vid again. It's a hard relationship. Good job gnattery, on making progress in vidding speed. I'm a monthly vidder myself, so I know how desirable that is.
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Post by legoline on Dec 15, 2011 18:04:03 GMT -5
Ah, dammit. I tried using 550MB avis for the first time tonight--converted them to vobs and then imported them into SV. Turns out, SV apparently doesn't like them too much  It was veeeeery slow and glitchy to work with them on the timeline and then when I wanted to save the file as an avi SV died on me. Three times. Guess I'll have to go back to clipping the internet files before I use them again (The DVD rip VOBs worked fine by the way). *sigh* |
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 15, 2011 18:47:36 GMT -5
Boos!  Must be a problem with files converted to VOB that doesn't affect native VOBs. Did you ever manage to find a converter to MPEG-2? Still think that would be best. |
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Post by fabella on Dec 15, 2011 23:30:51 GMT -5
First draft finished! Much involvement from a large glass of wine, so we shall see what it looks like in the morning. At this point, I normally just have to tighten the nuts and bolts, defrag the fragmented frames, snip this and move that slightly. What do you guys consider a first draft? Is it a full timeline that needs a lot of work still? I polish as I go, so my first full draft is more like a test drive than anything, so I'm curious.
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Post by legoline on Dec 16, 2011 2:56:45 GMT -5
Did you ever manage to find a converter to MPEG-2? Not really, no. It appears that MPEG-2 is patented, so all converters who're allowed to include it are fee-based I don't really have the 50$ for Prism or a different converter at the moment. Shame, it looks nifty. |
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 16, 2011 3:12:41 GMT -5
Legoline - boos. I'll keep an eye out and if I find any helpful software I'll let you know.
fabella - I consider a full timeline a first draft. Although if it's getting betaed, I'll clean it up somewhat before I'd call that a first draft.
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Post by legoline on Dec 16, 2011 3:24:56 GMT -5
@obsessive24 Thank you Out of curiousity--do you also use Prism to convert to Xvid later? I used to use Avidemux for that, but apparently it doesn't like the really huge avi files that I get when I convert my lagarith/Avisynth file in Virtual Dub Mod. In the very beginning I just exported to Xvid using SV, but my DVD player didn't recognise the audio in those files, so I ended up using Avidemux. fabella I used to consider a first draft a timeline that felt "right" and just needed a bit of tweakage, but I've become lazy since I signed up for this forum. These days, any full timeline is a first draft ;D In other news, I've finally found a song for a festivids treat! I really wanted to do that particular treat, but it requires a song from a music era that I'm not too familiar with. On top of that, I knew exactly what the song was supposed to sound/feel like for the kind of vid I have in mind, and finding one that matched turned out really, really difficult. But! Finally, I haz success! \0/
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 16, 2011 5:43:16 GMT -5
Legoline - no, I only use Prism for source conversion. I use AutoGK for converting to XviD for web distribution. It's really good and pretty much all automated. I think the website is down right now (first time I've seen it do that), but Google AutoGK and it should turn up a number of download mirrors. It's freeware. (The alternative is to manually run a two-pass encode from VDub, which I can show you if you want, but honestly, I don't see why you need to because AutoGK takes all the hassle away and gives you a shinier product.) YAY for success in music picking!
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Post by legoline on Dec 17, 2011 6:13:34 GMT -5
Okay, SV seems to be dying on me whenever now, really.  I just tried to tackle a festivids treat using VOBs from a DVD rip and...it just crashed on me. And I had just managed to shorten a song by taking a bit of the solo out, and it sounded really cool and I was so proud Also, for some reason the VOBs had the DVD commentaries on them--as in, a little box with peole and headphones in the right corner--and I have no idea why. I'm officially going to pout now If SV is a goner and I can't finish my actual Festivids assignement I'm going to...cry. Or scream. Kick something. Possibly all three. (But thanks for pointing out AutoGK--I shall try it out if I ever find a way to get SV to work again. Or any other program.) |
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Post by winterjasmine on Dec 17, 2011 12:10:37 GMT -5
legoline I'm not sure what program you are using to rip your DVDs but make sure you've grabbed the right VOB. I know when I rip I get a lot of VOB files, and when I clip in MPEG Streamclip, sometimes it doesn't join the files back together properly and I only get part of the episode I want. Not sure if this is any help. But :hugs: for your tech difficulties. When I can't get it to work I find just putting it away for a day often helps. Sometimes problems are magically resolved the next time you boot up! Here's hoping! Jaz
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Post by franzeska on Dec 17, 2011 13:18:10 GMT -5
legoline I'm not sure what program you are using to rip your DVDs but make sure you've grabbed the right VOB. I know when I rip I get a lot of VOB files, and when I clip in MPEG Streamclip, sometimes it doesn't join the files back together properly and I only get part of the episode I want. I tend to leave rips around for sources I work on regularly, so what I'll do is delete all of the small files (or ones I've checked and determined are previews or menus or whatever). What's left is usually a few 1+GB VOBs with a regular naming scheme. If you sort them by name and open all at once in MPEG Streamclip, it should get everything and it should join them appropriately as long as you click 'yes' when it asks about fixing time codes. ...at least, that's what happens to me. |
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Post by legoline on Dec 17, 2011 13:31:39 GMT -5
franzeska & winterjasmine I can't for the life of me get Streamclip to work on my computer. I once spent an entire morning trying to get it installed--it wouldn't work with regular Quicktime, I had to get a specific version of that one. When I did install that one and got rid of the regular Quicktime it still got me an error message, and I went round and round in circles for hours. Maybe it's a Windows 7 thing I have to use Virtual Dub Mod which is slightly more time consuming to work with.
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It was veeeeery slow and glitchy to work with them on the timeline and then when I wanted to save the file as an avi SV died on me. Three times. Guess I'll have to go back to clipping the internet files before I use them again 
Must be a problem with files converted to VOB that doesn't affect native VOBs. Did you ever manage to find a converter to MPEG-2? Still think that would be best.
I just tried to tackle a festivids treat using VOBs from a DVD rip and...it just crashed on me. And I had just managed to shorten a song by taking a bit of the solo out, and it sounded really cool and I was so proud 
