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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 13, 2011 4:19:37 GMT -5
gnat - awesome! Always good toe non-avoidy. ;D fabella - the only thing better than a vid from you is TWO vids from you. So there's that. I'm slowly making headway on my Escapade premiere, which is for Smallville. I hadn't quite realised how ambitious the narrative is, so it's giving me some grief trying to wrangle clips to say what I want them to say.
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Post by legoline on Dec 13, 2011 15:43:01 GMT -5
I've decided that I really can't put my finger on what the problem with my vid is (for all I know it might not even be a problem) and that really, I have to just accept that at this point it's really just the best I can do skillwise. I have thus declared it finished and spent all evening fiddling with Avisynth and VirtualDubMod. I'd hoped I might post it later but I fear it'll be past my bedtime by the time everything is ready Ah, to quote Scarlett O'Hara: "After all... tomorrow is another day."
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Post by thatyourefuse on Dec 14, 2011 14:27:05 GMT -5
Ugh, ugh, ugh. I think I am reaching that stage in the learning process where I can see where I'm sucking, but I'm not good enough to unsuck.
And I've back-burnered "The National Anthem" due to realizing there's no way I can make it to my satisfaction in WMM.
SIGH.
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Post by voodoochild on Dec 14, 2011 14:34:59 GMT -5
Word on everything, Em.
WMM sucks. I have spent three straight days trying to fix this stupid disappearing clip/corrupted file/system error problem. Every time I fix one clip that was perfectly fine a few days ago, three more show up corrupted. And then those decide to cooperate and five OTHERS pop up.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 14, 2011 14:45:10 GMT -5
Guys, how's about not using WMM then?
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Post by thatyourefuse on Dec 14, 2011 14:48:03 GMT -5
*earnest* Yes, but that would make sense.
(All seriousness, though, it's pretty much... what I've got; I saw a Vegas download on one of my comms a while back, but I've heard so much about that playing badly with .avi source that I didn't even check to see whether the link was active. Which was probably dumb of me, but these have been the Months of Bad Decisions. As witness me on here rather than trying not to flunk the term...)
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Post by voodoochild on Dec 14, 2011 15:02:28 GMT -5
And it would mean learning a whole new program when we've just scaled the learning curve on THAT ONE.
(Though if anyone's got alternative program recommendations, I'm listening!)
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Post by thatyourefuse on Dec 14, 2011 15:22:56 GMT -5
I checked it.
It is.
Fuck this noise. I'm going in.
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Post by legoline on Dec 14, 2011 15:26:33 GMT -5
Take it from someone who used to work with WMM--Sony Vega's basic layout isn't all that different. The only main difference is the trimmer, and that one is really nifty.
True, you have to convert your standard dl avis first, but it's so worth it. Sony Vegas allows you such precise cutting and it does it so effortlessly; it's much more fun.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 14, 2011 15:27:56 GMT -5
\o/
It's always gonna be horrible trying to learn a new program, but I think in the long run it's very worth it. I take it you're both on PCs? Premiere is better at being AVI-compatible (can take AVIs from CS4, I think, and avisynth compatible in prior versions), although I find Vegas more intuitive. Those two are probably the best to try first; you might as well use something that's widely used in the community so there's people to help troubleshoot. Vegas definitely offers a 30 day free trial; not sure about Premiere.
Em - you can edit AVIs directly in Vegas, but it can be buggy. In any case it's not too hard to convert your source to something more compatible before editing.
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Post by thatyourefuse on Dec 14, 2011 15:31:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I checked the Vegas help thread and I have downloaded a converty thing. We'll see if this works, I suppose. (Drea, I shall of course be generous if it does.)
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Post by thatyourefuse on Dec 14, 2011 16:46:08 GMT -5
... it didn't.
Downloading Premiere trial, will damn well figure the rest out later.
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Post by fabella on Dec 15, 2011 0:55:20 GMT -5
@ obsessive24 - At this point, there won't be one vid! Augh!
Frustrated beyond belief with this one. I keep trying to step away from it, or spend some time only clipping, but the vid keeps sucking me back in. Thought about it all day at work, and spent a good three hours on less than ten seconds of vid tonight. I think I might be too invested in this video to ever be satisfied by it. Anyone else ever feel that way?
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:07:22 GMT -5
I think I might be too invested in this video to ever be satisfied by it. Anyone else ever feel that way? Actually no, now that you mention it. I kind of find that there's a hump to get over, and then things magically fall into place after a while. Or maybe my expectations change? I dunno. But I fully understand the madly-in-love-with-the-vid aspect. I somewhat recently came to the conclusion that this phase of vidding feels pretty much the same as falling in love or being in a new relationship. You think about it constantly and can't bear to be away from it. Em - you can always try the Vegas trial from the Sony site itself.
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Post by icepixie on Dec 15, 2011 3:21:07 GMT -5
But I fully understand the madly-in-love-with-the-vid aspect. I somewhat recently came to the conclusion that this phase of vidding feels pretty much the same as falling in love or being in a new relationship. You think about it constantly and can't bear to be away from it. I've actually never managed to get out of this stage when I'm working on a vid; once I get past the planning stage and actually start ripping video and putting things on a timeline, I almost always finish the vid in a feverish couple-day blitz of activity, then don't think about vidding at all for months until I'm struck by a new idea, and the whole cycle repeats. I'm impressed by everyone here who has, you know, self-control. If I lose momentum on a vid, I rarely get it back. Em, good luck with Premiere! fabella, when I get stuck on a spot, sometimes I just play around with clips there or elsewhere on the timeline, and just try to get them to look cool with the music rather than work with the idea or narrative. Usually I delete them, but seeing an action sequence (or whatever) fit perfectly with the music and think, "I made that happen!" always cheers me up and often seems to give me a fresh perspective on my problem spot.
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