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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 14, 2011 19:17:58 GMT -5
I think it would have worked a lot better for me if everything wasn't just centred, with equal black stripes on either side. With the mixed panels, I think it would have worked better for me if they'd left/right/top/bottom-aligned some of the panels, just to mix it up a bit for visual interest. But that's just me.
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Post by eunice on Nov 14, 2011 19:28:07 GMT -5
Battlefield!!! That was one of the vids that got me so excited at sisabet's comics vidding panel this year at VVC, because it clicked how much potential there is and opportunity to look at vidding differently.
Favorite part was the power point in which "S--t don't move" (can we swear on here? I think I have a few times already, but then I remembered maybe we're not supposed to?) was listed under both positive and negative. And I think the same applies to different panel sizes.
It means not being able to use footage in the same way I'm used to as a live action vidder (or in the way amv editors use animated footage), but it's also freeing because there's all kinds of ways to use that you can't do with stuff that moves, or exists within a limited set of frame size options. THE POSSIBILITIES OMG.
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Post by mithborien on Nov 15, 2011 8:57:34 GMT -5
Speaking of vids that use still images, I don't remember what it was called but does anyone remember a Farscape fanvid that only used still images. It used more effects that the vid shown above but it looked fantastic. I wish I could remember what it was called because I would love to watch it again. Unfortunately I lost hundreds of Farscape fanvids that I had saved to my computer when the hard drive died but I am fairly sure that it is posted somewhere on www.farscapefantasy.comI just don't want to look through them all at the moment... |
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Post by katbyrd on Nov 15, 2011 21:49:54 GMT -5
I'm working on Starsky & Hutch vids for next year's con. I'm old and slow so I need a head start.
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Post by valika on Nov 16, 2011 4:23:42 GMT -5
I'm not working on anything at the moment, except I'm haunting the appropriate song for my Festivids assignment (I've found it! But I thought this previously, telling the truth.)
Next step: clipping. At the weekend I'll have time to do it hopefully.
katbyrd: I'm slow usually, too (and old) but who cares? Just have fun, this is what's important, I think. Making videos for a con, sounds exciting!
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 16, 2011 4:43:32 GMT -5
mithborien - wish I could help, but that rings no bells. Maybe we need to have a "what's that vid?" thread. katbyrd - that's a very early start indeed! Good luck!  Is it just for Premieres, or other vidshows too? valika - hope you are successful in your search. Do you enjoy clipping? Everyone I know who does it seems to think it's the worst part of their process...
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Post by valika on Nov 16, 2011 5:20:58 GMT -5
Oh, clipping is the most boring and longest part of the vidding process for me, too. Except when I use one source, a movie. In this case I leave the work at my editor, it can make me lots of tiny clips, cutting up the whole thing into pieces. After all, finding the ones I need, is not much easier.
Does anyone else use this method for clipping movies? Just curious.
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 16, 2011 5:41:29 GMT -5
I used to, when I first started. It was pretty useful to have the software split the scenes (even if you had to be careful because they always ended up with stray frames). Then I moved to Premiere 6.5, which didn't have that capability, so I got used to watching through my source at high speed and taking notes and just selecting the bits I needed and dragging them down to the timeline.
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Post by eunice on Nov 16, 2011 11:28:42 GMT -5
Hee, clipping is SO BORING. If I try and sit down and officially do it before starting a vid, I find I wander away and never actually vid.
My method now is to break the source down into scenes stashed in bins for easy scrubbing and vid as I go.
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Post by legoline on Nov 16, 2011 11:37:33 GMT -5
I'm clipping because FoolishPassion said I should  But actually, I find it really helpful because initially I only clip those scenes that I may need for the video, so I already get an overview of "what's there" and how I might use it while I clip. But I agree. It's SO boring. |
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 16, 2011 11:38:15 GMT -5
I don't even do that. I sort of just import whole episdes/1GB VOB chunks into Vegas and rewatch the source as I vid. ;D
From the conversations here, I'm seriously getting this vibe that newbies to vidding often think we are motivated and crazy and do all this fancy stuff... whereas in actual fact we're as lazy as one could possibly imagine. ;D
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Post by eunice on Nov 16, 2011 11:49:03 GMT -5
I sort of just import whole episdes/1GB VOB chunks into Vegas and rewatch the source as I vid. If I could get away with that, I totally would. Sometimes I do for movies. But with a whole season of something in an avisynth file if I try and scrub through as is I miss stuff and get overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the source. Breaking things down by episode/scene in bins is just more convenient, though I don't spend a whole lot of time doing it. Just 'hit I on keyboard to mark in, scrub quickly to end of scene, hit O for out, S for subclip...move on' Tedious, but fast, and if anything shows up that I know immediately I want in my vid I can toss it on the timeline before moving on. |
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Post by obsessive24 on Nov 16, 2011 12:02:08 GMT -5
This "bin" process sounds so mysterious and impressive! I'm really wanting you to do a transparent process diary now, so I can see what you mean. For me it's always, "bins, what bins? Everything goes in the same folder!" Hmm, with large sources, I usually do a big rewatch beforehand and make notes with timestamps, usually with awesome descriptions like "X is sooo preeetty must use this clip *heart* *heart*" and then end up with big notebooks of notes. Or I used to, until I WENT DIGITAL this year omg, and now I write my notes on a .txt file. But it's harder to draw hearts around stuff now.  I kind of like the big rewatches driven by vidding. I've done it with all of Buffy and Angel about once a year on average, and it never ceases to be awesome. (Although I do it at 1.5x speed with subtitles so it's not as tedious as it might otherwise be.) |
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Post by legoline on Nov 16, 2011 12:04:27 GMT -5
From the conversations here, I'm seriously getting this vibe that newbies to vidding often think we are motivated and crazy and do all this fancy stuff... whereas in actual fact we're as lazy as one could possibly imagine. ;D You mean--you don't use wands and incantations? ;D |
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Post by eunice on Nov 16, 2011 12:47:48 GMT -5
This "bin" process sounds so mysterious and impressive! I'm really wanting you to do a transparent process diary now, so I can see what you mean. I can't do a transparent right now 'cause Festivids!  But I opened my Once A Thief project file that's on hold for that to show you my bins. This looks way more complicated than it actually is, three keyboard shorcuts and a brief description per scene is all I do. A whole episode takes maaaaaaaaaaaybe 10 minutes to break down. And in this case the scene descriptions are actually more detailed than usual, just 'cause I have multiple vids planned for the series and only one season I had to do. So, unexpanded we have this : fan-eunice.com/bin1.JPGaudio files, sequences, .avs file, and a top level source bin. Open the source bin and this: fan-eunice.com/bin2.JPGEach episode has it's own bin. Open an episode bin and this: fan-eunice.com/bin3.JPGEach scene in that episode has it's own subclip, so I can easily jump to 'oh I need Mac and Li Ann dancing together!' without scrubbing through anything else to get there ...it so looks like more work than it is. Seriously, maybe five/ten minutes per episode depending on how detailed I get in descriptions (some bins the scene breakdown description is like '01 Amy/Rory' just so I know who is in the scene and that's it) |
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Is it just for Premieres, or other vidshows too?
But actually, I find it really helpful because initially I only clip those scenes that I may need for the video, so I already get an overview of "what's there" and how I might use it while I clip. 
But I opened my Once A Thief project file that's on hold for that to show you my bins. This looks way more complicated than it actually is, three keyboard shorcuts and a brief description per scene is all I do. A whole episode takes maaaaaaaaaaaybe 10 minutes to break down. And in this case the scene descriptions are actually more detailed than usual, just 'cause I have multiple vids planned for the series and only one season I had to do.