How do you share your vids?

[thedothatgirl]

Nov 22, 2011 16:22:59 GMT -5 winterjasmine said:

thedothatgirl ah, that's good to know. I figured I was just doing it wrong

Jaz

Or we both are

[winterjasmine]

Nov 23, 2011 6:16:29 GMT -5 thedothatgirl said:

Or we both are

Hehe, that indeed is a distinct possibility

Jaz

[elipie]

since you mention viewership on YT, here's something I've been wondering since I don't have an active YT account: do you find there's any difference in the types of comments you receive on YT versus, say, LJ? Do you find that audiences generally look for different things in these two communities, do they seem quite similar to you?

I think it depends. On one hand, it's quicker/easier to press the thumbs up or down button than leave a comment on YT, especially if you liked the vid but didn't really have anything to say, so in that respect I really like YT (though AO3 does the same thing with Kudos). As for the comments, I find that LJers put a lot more thought into the comments. While YTers sometimes do leave really nice comments pointing out specific parts they like, they're generally much more likely to be more excited about the fandom/pairing itself than the actual vid.

So TL;DR: I really love and appreciate both types of comments, but I think because LJ is significantly smaller, and because many of the people who leave comments on LJ are also vidders or participators in fandom themselves, they tend to look for a personal style moreso than YTers, who are more likely to stumble upon your vid by using the search tool.

[obsessive24]

That makes sense. As you specifically mentioned the thumbs up button - the one thing that I really dislike about YT is the thumbs down button. If you receive one, it's like, you have absolutely no context where that came from. What is it about the vid they disliked? The editing? The themes? Or just because they don't like you as a vidder or they hate the ship? I just really, really dislike that people can just snipe in and hit that button without needing to justify their opinion. Internet-based interaction can be so abrasive while the same people would never do the same in RL. Whereas with LJ, at least if someone says they don't like your vid, you know who they are and most of the time they try to explain why they didn't like it. There's a degree of lack of personal responsibility that I find in YT viewership/commentary and that's primarily the reason I've stayed away from it.

[elipie]

obsessive24-- I hate the exact same thing about the thumbs down button. I wish that if someone decided to press it, they'd at the very least tell me why, otherwise it seems rather rude. If I don't like a vid for a reason beyond the vidder's creative choices, I usually just don't say anything, because there's nothing I could say that could help them improve, and you're right, the thumbs down button tells the vidder nothing. I don't know what compels people to press it.

[astarte]

I'm currently offering a permanent download link and one to mediafire - having a free account makes sure, the files aren't deleted if nobody downloads the for some time and I can keep track of hits. I don't offer a streaming version, since stage6 and imeem closed and vidder.net wanted money for additional vids, so part of my old ones are still there to stream.

I would really like to upload my vids on youtube, but with being German there comes a price - or more truthfully lots and lots of blockage. So I don't even bother to upload vids I know will be blocked and I don't always want to go through the hoops of proxy, it's really frustrating if you click on a link and get a blackscreen. The German conflict between youtube, the labels and Gema is really fascinating - legoline did mix up GEMA with GEZ (They make sure that we have our balanced and educational radio/and TV stations - also for local news, a bit like the BBC or I think PBS in America that is paid by every household who which has an access to it.) So actually the GEMA represents the artists who are their members or through their labels part of it. Their main goal should be making sure that their members get their royalties. (Because our copyright starts with the creation of a piece, you don't need to confirm it - it's fundamentally different is all I'm saying.) But the way the GEMA is constructed and more importantly lead makes it pretty inconvenient for small artists to the point that they get screwed out of their money, if they license their songs. They would need to pay for every time they play their own songs at concerts and then get a check at the end of the year, that doesn't cover the fees they paid. So they are in some ways even more ineffective then their American counterfeit. What is interesting with the youtube conflict is that GEMA had an arrangement which ended and now they want I think ten times or twenty times more money than the rest of the world for every hit from Germany. The labels would rather have the same or less money per hit and you know free publicity on youtube than nothing at all. So you have these three parties that can't get their shit together and there is a real pissing contest going on in which the labels now point the finger to the GEMA every time a vid won't play. Black screen with a text boiling down to: No, WE are totally fine with you watching stuff on youtube - GEMA is blocking our content. It's glorious and sadly very ineffective, I'm not sure if they are even talking about it - there is certainly no news about it.

So for me? I always click on the download option, if I have one - Youtube is fickle for Germans, so are other services like 4share. There are actually vidders I had to give up on, because all options they offered, didn't work for me or were not playable.

[franzeska]

Nov 28, 2011 16:19:20 GMT -5 astarte said:

So for me? I always click on the download option, if I have one - Youtube is fickle for Germans, so are other services like 4share. There are actually vidders I had to give up on, because all options they offered, didn't work for me or were not playable.

How's Vimeo? (I know they have a nasty habit of deleting things, but they don't have any region controls, do they?)

[legoline]

astarte: Ooops, I did indeed mix up GEZ and GEMA. I know the difference, honest! ;D

franzeska: Vimeo has worked for me every single time so far but then again, it does offer the lovely "password protected" option which seems to help.

[astarte]

@franzeska: After writing this down, I did look up, if I had a vimeo account, but no it was veoh which I tried and deleted my first uploaded vid. So I was thinking about trying vimeo with password protection for my next vid.

@legoline: Yeah, I thought so - I was reading your entry going, but she descibes the other thingy. I'm ashamed that I needed a second till I came up with GEZ. Heh.

[obsessive24]

I like Vimeo. The framerate and quality is better than, say, Vidders net. I've heard of people who'd had their password-protected vids deleted on occasion, but it doesn't seem to happen often.

[violace]

I've noticed that many vidders use Livejournal and Dreamwidth simultaneously to announce new vids. For those of you who do that, do your posts get auto-mirrored or do you crosspost separately? And do you feel like the vidding community is more active on either one, or what made you decide to use both?

[littleheaven]

I jumped ship from LJ to DW when my paid account expired last December, because I was just so sick to the back teeth of all the spam I got on unlocked posts at LJ. I post to DW and use the crosspost facility to simultaneously update LJ. I get about equal response from each, given my f-list is kind of evenly split between the two right now.

[frayadjacent]

Same here, I'm primarily on DW, mostly because I found a layout that I really liked there, but I auto-crosspost to LJ. It seems about equal in terms of current activity, but LJ definitely has more in terms of archives. I can find a lot more vids, icons etc on LJ than DW, especially since I tend to look in "older" fandoms, e.g., Buffy and Firefly.

On an unrelated note, could someone tell me how you modify the quote tags on vidpub replies so that the specific person you're quoting is referenced? Thanks!

[violace]

Right, I didn't even think about the spam messages. I've been on LJ since 2003, but it has always been friends only, so I wasn't aware of the amount of spam unless I noticed it on other journals.

Lurking around, I got the impression that there's a tiny bit more going on on LJ, but that DW is more user friendly and a nicer place for the purpose of sharing creative things.

Anyway, I made a new account for vidding-related things on LJ, and then decided to check out DW a couple days later - so now I have accounts on both, too. ;D I even found a way to import the exact same layout from one to the other and figured out the crossposting stuff with the desktop client I use.
Still setting a few things up, but as soon as it's ready, I'm going on a friending spree


fray, there's the little "quote" button in the top right of every post. If that's what you mean? And then if you want to quote several different posts, you can just copy them all into one message.

[frayadjacent]

Great! I'll keep an eye out for you.

I did find the quote button, but when I use it it just says "Quote" at the top of the quote section of my entry. I'm trying to figure out how to have the top line above the quoted section refer to the person who's being quoted. Elipie's post upthread is an example of what I'm able to do; Franzeska's is an example of what I'd like to do. I thought if I changed

to something like

it might work, but to no avail.

Obviously not too important, but now I'm curious.