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Post by legoline on Dec 1, 2011 11:25:25 GMT -5
So, I figured since they're quite a few vidding newbies in this forum that I might start a thread where we can ask "stupid" technical questions and wreck our brains about things that should in theory be very obvious and easy, in the hopes that some of the more experienced vidders may be our Gandalfs and Obi-Wans and help us out. I'll go first. In shock and horror I learned that, despite FoolishPassion's warnings about only using DVD rips as your source, quite a few vidders here go for the cheaper versions instead. *cough* I would love to do that, too, but my SonyVegas (Movie Studio HD Platinum 10.0) doesn't like these files (or their codecs, presumably) and so they won't run properly. How do I get these files converted so that they work with SV? How do you do it? obsessive24 told me in the other thread that apparently my version of SV will not run with AviSynth. All I can think of is to convert the file to VOBs using Format Factory and then back to avi-files using VirtualDubMod. Is there an easier way? Thanks for the help! (And you other newbies--and oldies--come ask your "stupid" questions )
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 1, 2011 12:01:33 GMT -5
I convert downloaded AVIs to MPEG-2s, which run quite smoothly in my version of Vegas (also Movie Studio HD Platinum 10). But if I have VOBs ripped from DVD, I just import them directly into Vegas. Why do you have to convert to VOB then back into AVI again? Is it a space issue?
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Post by legoline on Dec 1, 2011 12:03:23 GMT -5
How do you convert them into MPEG-2? I haven't found a program yet that does that. My Avidemux hates me, apparently.
I tried loading VOB files into my SonyVegas but it wouldn't read them. It doesn't show me the VOBs when I try to open then, even though I have the thingie set to "Show all project and media files".
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 1, 2011 12:09:27 GMT -5
That's weird, I can import VOBs and edit them just fine, and I'm pretty sure littleheaven can as well on the same software. What does Vegas say when you try to do it? Does it actually come up with a "format not supported" kind of warning, or does it just not do anything? Because this might be stupid advice, but if it's just not responding, have you tried importing it different ways (i.e. drag and drop vs the "import" via File menu)? Also, if you don't have the AMVApp and K-Lite Codec Pack installed, it might be good to do that just as a matter of course. They're sort of my magic fixes where you install them and magically things start working. I use a piece of paid software - Prism - to convert to MPEG-2, so it's not overly helpful. You can test it out with a free trial though. I'm sure someone recently mentioned they started converting to MPEG-2, so hopefully they have a freeware recommendation.
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Post by legoline on Dec 1, 2011 12:33:36 GMT -5
No, it just doesn't show the files at all when I open the folder. It was possible to just drag the VOB into Vegas (why didn't I think of this before? *facepalm*) \0/ Thank you! (And I'll install that codec pack! Prism you say? I'll look it up...
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 2, 2011 2:55:08 GMT -5
Well, I'm glad the drag and drop worked. I also just gave it a little test. You should be able to see the VOBs if you set the import to "all files", not just "all media files".
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Post by legoline on Dec 2, 2011 12:53:13 GMT -5
You should be able to see the VOBs if you set the import to "all files", not just "all media files". *facepalm* God, I feel like an idiot ;D It's just that when I clicked on the drop down menu it showed "All media types" as the first option and then loads of other, and I just didn't realise I could actually scroll up too, because miraculously, ta-daaaa, there it is. THANK YOU.
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Post by icepixie on Dec 2, 2011 20:49:26 GMT -5
We're discussing this a bit in the New to Vidding thread, but it's probably better suited for this one. iMovie users: what is this I hear about markers? Is it indeed possible to stick clips to a certain section of music and have them stay there even if you then mess with clips that come before them on the timeline? Tell me more!
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Post by franzeska on Dec 2, 2011 23:14:02 GMT -5
We're discussing this a bit in the New to Vidding thread, but it's probably better suited for this one. iMovie users: what is this I hear about markers? Is it indeed possible to stick clips to a certain section of music and have them stay there even if you then mess with clips that come before them on the timeline? Tell me more! Hee. I so did not explain that well. No, I don't think you can have them stay there, but there are easier and harder ways to move them back there after editing something else. I should dig out my old vid files and take some screencaps or something and see if our versions of iMovie behave the same way.
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Post by winterjasmine on Dec 3, 2011 14:33:12 GMT -5
I use the Bookmark function for marking the beats. The Chapter Markers seem to move around after you've placed them, for some reason I don't understand, while the Bookmarks stay put in relation to the music track. If I've got a section worked out and go back to fill in before that section, I put three bookmarks together to mark the point the completed section starts, so when it call gets moved along when you add more clips, you can easily line it back up again. I've not worked out how to 'stick' for want of a better word, the clip to the music track so that it doesn't move when you add other clips. I don't think you can do this in iMovie HD. Hmm... explaining in words is hard! Jaz
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Post by icepixie on Dec 3, 2011 15:21:58 GMT -5
Jaz, I think HD's bookmarks became beat markers in '09. Is that what you're talking about, franzeska? I just went and googled how to use these things and...I think I get it? Basically are you just marking a place in the audio where you stuck a clip and it looked good, and it leaves a little line or other kind of marker on the audio track you can line the clip up with when you come back to it, like so?
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Post by franzeska on Dec 3, 2011 15:57:28 GMT -5
Jaz, I think HD's bookmarks became beat markers in '09. Is that what you're talking about, franzeska? I just went and googled how to use these things and...I think I get it? Basically are you just marking a place in the audio where you stuck a clip and it looked good, and it leaves a little line or other kind of marker on the audio track you can line the clip up with when you come back to it Yeah, I sadly can't easily access my old projects right now, but this is what I was talking about. Basically, I would keep track of where sections at the end of the vid were supposed to start by using them. I'd go back, edit the beginning, and then re-adjust the end sections to their correct starting points after they'd gotten moved by the other editing. It sounds like they've gotten more complicated than what I remember. There are a bunch of tutorials on youtube that might or might not be helpful.
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Post by winterjasmine on Dec 3, 2011 16:26:08 GMT -5
Jaz, I think HD's bookmarks became beat markers in '09. Is that what you're talking about, franzeska? Calling them beat markers sounds so much more sensible. I never could work out what a bookmark was doing in vidding software. It's about as far from a book as you can get... Jaz
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Post by icepixie on Dec 3, 2011 17:15:06 GMT -5
Basically, I would keep track of where sections at the end of the vid were supposed to start by using them. I'd go back, edit the beginning, and then re-adjust the end sections to their correct starting points after they'd gotten moved by the other editing That is...insanely easier than what I've been doing. Holy crap. I ran into that YouTube tutorial you linked to. When I tried to listen to a song and mark the beats just to mark the beats, my brain for some reason went "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO." I can hear the beats and other stuff I might mark just fine, but apparently pressing "m" when I hear them is too complicated for me or something. But I definitely like the idea of using that function to mark an already-vidded place and will be doing that in the future!
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Post by franzeska on Dec 3, 2011 19:17:27 GMT -5
When I tried to listen to a song and mark the beats just to mark the beats, my brain for some reason went "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO." I can hear the beats and other stuff I might mark just fine, but apparently pressing "m" when I hear them is too complicated for me or something. Yeah, I sometimes add markers as I listen, but they're very approximate; I go back and adjust them to actually be in the correct place later. It looks like you can drag them in iMovie 9? Lots of programs have some way of clicking on the marker and entering a new time for it too. (And, yes, oh my god, insanely easier! I liked iMovie about a billion times better as soon as I started using markers like that. )
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