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Post by legoline on Dec 29, 2011 10:10:23 GMT -5
I was watching The Fellowship of the Ring on Christmas Day (as you do  ), and something odd happened. I noticed a montage that had lots of crossfades. I've seen that film at least fifty times, and I've seen that montage fifty times, and I guess that subconsciously I always saw the crossfades but this time I actually consciously noticed them. As in, I suddenly found myself thinking, "Oy, crossfades! What an odd choice for that particular sequence!" I had never before questioned the technical aspects with that film. Script issues, yes, flaws in the plot, naturally, and of course I had always paid attention to the camera work but I had never disected the actual editing. What's more, I couldn't help but picture that sequence on a SonyVegas timeline with the different clips dragged into one another and overlapping (and realised that wow, movies might just be made like I edit fanvids, with different clips on a time line and the editing people tweaking and wondering whether to give a clip that extra frame or not). Has that ever happened to you? Has vidding altered the way you watch movies? I keep wondering whether my "revelation" is a good or a bad thing--I definitely like understanding the process behind a film and it does offer more things to ponder about (Crossfade? Really? Here? Why?) but I fear it may also take a bit of the magic of movies away. What do you think? |
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Post by FitzPro on Dec 29, 2011 10:39:34 GMT -5
I had a similar experience with a television show. Watching the season finale of Terra Nova there was a single clip that struck me and inspired the video I'm working on. I started thinking about how the clip was created, wondering if it was simulated with after effects, or actually shot in that manner. I never would have cared before, I would have just been "ooooh pretty." Ha ha.
I tend to notice camera angles and movements a lot more. I like unique, distinctive shots. I imagine how those could play well into a video.
And here recently, I have fallen in love with movie trailers. Perhaps because it's a vidders dream come true. Someone takes a movie, condenses it into a minute and millions of people are inspired and run to the theaters to watch it.
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Post by mithborien on Dec 29, 2011 11:41:43 GMT -5
Vidding now makes me slightly more hesitant to watch movies and TV because it seems like everything new thing I watch I get a new idea for a vid, which is AWESOME but since my list of vid ideas is far too long all ready it's doubtful they will get made any time soon.
But seriously, vidding has made me more observent of scenes, transitions and framing, not so much in a technical or film-making sense but in a OOH! PRETTY! that would look fabulous in a vid, hence the above hesitation.
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Post by noiproksa on Dec 29, 2011 11:59:01 GMT -5
It happens to me all the time, which can get kind of frustrating when you just want to enjoy a movie. Noticing editing techniques is the one thing - which doesn't happen all that often because things such as crossfades aren't used that often. But if they are, my mind always immediately jumps to vidding space.
But the other aspect is what FitzPro already mentioned: I always look for camera angles and the like. And I watch scenes / clips within the scenes in a way that has me categorizing them for vidding purposes (even though I don't even want to vid to that specific movie): Is it a nice shot to use for a vid because of motion / color / emotion and facial expression ... or is there something "wrong" with the clip so that I couldn't use it (for example there is something distracting going on in the background or opening credits get in the way or it's just too dark or too ... whatever).
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Post by elipie on Dec 29, 2011 13:40:14 GMT -5
To be honest, it's changed the way I listen to music more than anything. TV school has already completely corrupted the way I watch TV/movies, so while I do think about whether a certain scene would work in a vid when I'm watching something, I think already having my viewership affected drastically is why I feel like vidding hasn't affected it as much. Listening to music though, oh boy. Literally every time I hear a new song, I go, "Hmm... which fandom/character would this match with?" or "Oh my god, this song would be SO FUN to edit to!" And then if I think of an idea, even if it's bad, I will never unattach that idea from the song, so if it's something I hear on the radio a lot, I'll go, "Oh, there's that Leslie Knope song again." I find that this mostly happens in the car, but it's happened at bars before too, where I'll completely zone out of the conversation I'm having because I need to think of a vid idea for the awesome song that's playing in the background.
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Post by legoline on Dec 29, 2011 13:59:20 GMT -5
I tend to notice camera angles and movements a lot more. I like unique, distinctive shots. I imagine how those could play well into a video. I've been doing that for a while now, albeit for different reasons. I have a good friend who has a degree in graphic design and is also a dedicated icon maker. For the past few years every time we've watched a film together she's been commenting on how she would icon this or that shot. "I watch in icons," she says ;D And it's begun to seep into the way I watch films; I've definitely learned to appreciate the camera work and visuals more. |
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Post by icepixie on Dec 29, 2011 20:55:52 GMT -5
Definitely! I was watching The Cutting Edge the other day (one of my favorite movies <3), and...oh, I know it was the early nineties and they were trying to disguise the stunt skaters and all that, but did there really have to be that much weirdly-cut slow-mo? (I don't know how to explain it, exactly...it was like they slowed the footage down, then cut out random bits, so it...jittered. WEIRD. It also kinda looked like they might have applied some kind of Photoshop "sketch" filter to it, to heighten the weirdness.) Vidding has also made me really appreciate unique ways of moving the camera through space that I never noticed before, like a fabulous unbroken pan of a scene or nifty crane shots. Oh, and now I often notice the cuts you aren't supposed to notice, like going from a medium shot to a close up of someone while they're talking, which is a little annoying, but oh well.  |
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Post by franzeska on Dec 29, 2011 23:35:02 GMT -5
I listen to music much more frequently now and pay much more attention to it, but noir got me into vidding, so I was already being smacked in the face with film craft.
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Post by genusshrike on Dec 30, 2011 0:32:20 GMT -5
I do find myself noticing the editing more in movies--particularly in action sequences, or where gory things are happening. Vidding those kinds of sequences myself has made me more aware of how they're actually constructed, and whether or not people are actually getting hit or if it's just a trick of the cutting. And it's made me appreciate simply shot fight scenes more!
I'm also more appreciative of good cinematography. I'm not a very visual person really, so I'm not likely to notice nice camera-work on its own merits, but wanting pretty things to vid has made me pay more attention.
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Post by jackiek on Dec 30, 2011 18:01:25 GMT -5
I think it has changed theway I watch movies but, I have noticed a more pronounced difference in how I consume other media.
I listen to a much wider variety of music than I ever would have listened to before and instead of asking myself, "Do I like this song?" or "what inspired the artist to creat this?", I find myself asking "Would Character X like this song?", "How is the story of this song structured?", " could this work for XY or Z fandom? " If so, should I play it straight or ironically? Waht point of view could it take? Will The Grand Experiment by doomtree be the TikTok of 2012? It makes me think about music much more deeply than I used to.
It also makes me avoid novels. I want to vid them. this is painful. That story is in another thread.
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Post by nos on Jan 1, 2012 3:25:28 GMT -5
I got super angry at a commercial the other because it was edited SO.BADLY. It apparently took their old commercial, stuck it in a square behind the guy talking about the new commercial, and just let it run. The old commercial was close up shots of the same guy talking. Seriously, it was horribly distracting.
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Post by astarte on Jan 2, 2012 9:07:05 GMT -5
It certainly made me appreciate the hard work of the crew of movie/TV productions more. Like distinct color palettes for movies to set a mood. I can never shut down the vidder voice in my head, but I only get distracted by it, if something is very good or very bad. Or if they try too hard to be artistic or manipulate the audience and it backfires. And I think I would have taken notice of this even before I started vidding. For example BBC's Luther is shot beautiful with wide angles or unusual composition of the shots. It defines the show for me in a way and I'm happy that they kept it up.
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Post by thedothatgirl on Jan 2, 2012 10:36:59 GMT -5
Most certainly. If I am casually watching a film where I have no specific fandom interest or an actor I particularly like, then I tend to find myself making mental notes on editing, colours, scene composition etc.
However if it is a significant or long awaited film (e.g. Harry Potter ) then I just wallow in the whole experience and try not to deconstruct it until I'm seeing it for the second or third occasion.
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), and something odd happened. I noticed a montage that had lots of crossfades. I've seen that film at least fifty times, and I've seen that montage fifty times, and I guess that subconsciously I always saw the crossfades but this time I actually consciously noticed them. As in, I suddenly found myself thinking, "Oy, crossfades! What an odd choice for that particular sequence!" I had never before questioned the technical aspects with that film. Script issues, yes, flaws in the plot, naturally, and of course I had always paid attention to the camera work but I had never disected the actual editing.
