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Post by meivocis on Dec 13, 2012 12:57:52 GMT -5
As some of you know I've been having a few technical issues lately but after discussing it with folks on the AMV forum I'm starting to believe that I'm just seeing things that aren't there. To me my editing looks sloppy, almost as if some of the clips overlap in the timeline, but frame by frame in both Vegas and VD it looks clean. I'd be more than grateful if you guys could let me know what you think, the whole issue has been slowly driving me insane. Warning: Contains spoilers for S1/2 of The Walking Dead and scenes of gore/violence. Technical issues aside I'd be grateful for any and all feedback. I'm pretty happy with how the middle section turned out but the opening and closing are still nagging at me. I feel Daryl and Carol's friendship/love/mutual respect goes beyond the physical but that damn "sleep with me lyric" gives the vid a shippy vibe which I wasn't aiming for. I'm also a tad worried about the amount of jump cuts, do they work? I've watched it back so often now that it all blends into one big mess.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 13, 2012 13:27:31 GMT -5
The link doesn't seem to work?
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Post by meivocis on Dec 13, 2012 13:39:56 GMT -5
Whoops, it might have helped if I actually inserted the link! Should be working now, sorry about that.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 13, 2012 18:39:26 GMT -5
Okay, after watching it once I couldn't spot any stray frames. Although Vimeo does convert to 15fps (I think??) so even if they were there, they might have dropped off in the conversion. But I certainly didn't see any for what it's worth. I really enjoyed it. I think the jump cuts are just right and dont' think there's too much of them. If anything, I felt that perhaps the pace could even be ramped up a little more at parts, but some of that is probably attributable to my having vidded this song before, which made me hear it a particular way which I find hard to snap out of. I did think that the elegaic mood worked for Daryl's character really well, even though initially I was a little sceptical of the character/music choice mix. Concrit - I definitely feel the beginnings of an emotional connection, but right now, I feel like it's nudging at a really powerful emotional engagement but is not quite there yet. I think the key to that is to really build up Daryl's connection to Carole, even more than what you have now. I do see that you brought in Carole and Sofia quite early on into Daryl's consciousness around the :10s, although I wonder if that point can be hammered home more powerfully if you introduce clips of Daryl and Carole together-in-one-scene sooner, to better introduce the two of them as one single relationship concept instead of two discrete characters. I feel like there are a *lot* of clips of Daryl walking and stalking by himself in the :30s, space that might be better served by building up his relationship to Carole. (Maybe intercut with the clip of him finding the flower, which then foreshadows the 1:30s .) And I don't mean relationship as in romantically. I personally didn't get a shippy vibe, even with the lyrics, just because it's so not pitched that way in the show, and because the rest of the lyrics are quite opaque anyway and you hadn't interpreted it literally elsewhere. So I am not really worried about it coming across the "wrong" way, so to speak. (I'm quite surprised that you didn't use clips from scenes later in s2 because I think that would be sooo perfect for this vid and really push forward that emotional connection. If you haven't watched it yet, I think you should. ) - ETA: oops, just realised it was s3 rather than s2, stupid AMC and their split seasons. I still think the s3 Daryl/Carole stuff is very relevant though. In conjunction with the above, the Sofia bits really worked for me. What worked less well for me were the clips from the bit where Daryl gets accidentally shot by Andrea and that clip of everyone running toward him. Tonally it didn't quite feel right to me, especially because I think Daryl shooting Dale was such an emotionally powerful moment earlier in the vid, and then having Dale alive again in this clip undercut that emotional response in retrospect. Maybe you intended for the clips of Daryl getting shot and being wounded to be interpreted in a metaphorical sense rather than a contextual one, but then the issue becomes how do you signal to the viewer which parts they are supposed to take literally in the context of the show, versus which clips they are supposed to take metaphorically. Lastly, I am torn whether more Merle would enrich the vid, or cloud it with too much noise. I love what you did in the 0:40s, which I felt really defined Daryl's character in the early days, but then the Merle narrative/emotional thread kind of trailed away from there and there wasn't really any resolution on that front. But then, to include him would entail a much longer vid and an additional layer of narrative complexity, so maybe it's more a topic for another vid rather than this one.
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Post by meivocis on Dec 17, 2012 4:46:01 GMT -5
Could you pretty please be the vidding fairy that sits on my shoulder always? You've hit the nail on the head and I can now see the wood for the trees! ;D My original concept was to explore Daryl's relationship with the group, how he started working with them and became part of a family. Thanks to your feedback I can see I got so hung up on staying away from the shippy that I didn't pick up on the different direction the vid was taking once I got clips on the timeline. The section before Merle was originally intended to delve into Daryl's relationship with the group during S1. Some how this got lost in the vidding process leaving the end clips of Daryl being shot etc. with nothing to support them, and I can't believe I didn't pick up on the Dale thing! I've got a pretty good idea of what I'm going to replace the footage with and I'll definitely be looking at S3 for a possible change to the vids close. It's funny you should mention introducing Daryl and Carl together in the same scene earlier on. The opening originally included a scene from episode one of S2 where Daryl sets off on his Hog and shares eye contact with Carol as she's putting on Sophia's coat. I'll definitely be going back to see if that can be reworked in. As for the Merle section, I was torn over whether to remove it or not and in the end decided to stick with it as I really like what it does as a lead in to the Walker killing. I'm hoping to explore their relationship in another vid I have planned, just waiting on the final S3 episodes to air, but will definitely keep your comments in mind when re-vidding sections of this one. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply, your comments and ideas have cleared my head and I'm itching to get back to it. Sorry it's taken a few days to get back to you, Christmas prep is currently eating heavily into my online time.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 19, 2012 16:06:26 GMT -5
Glad to have helped a bit!
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