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Post by franzeska on Dec 6, 2011 19:59:01 GMT -5
Okay, brace yourself here comes another stupid question Do you really need to crop the bars off, will the viewer's media player not just create black bars to maintain the aspect ratio when they view it on their computer screen? It depends if they're playing it fullscreen or not. Most vids I find aren't high enough quality to look good blown up all the way on my huge monitor. Above, someone suggested that trimming like that will reduce the file size, which could be a plus for downloaders. So, yeah, it's possible trimming will have a small benefit for some viewers. Most people probably won't care all that much, though I suppose it may look slightly more polished to trim them off.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 7, 2011 5:01:30 GMT -5
Well, I'm currently on a widescreen laptop, so watching a cropped vid is the perfect fit for my screen. If the vid actually has in-built black bars, then the vid shows up much smaller on my screen because the black bars force it to be a certain height, therefore the width is also reduced to keep the aspect ratio right, and I'm basically watching a much smaller vid amongst a thick border of black on all sides. Hope that makes sense...
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 7, 2011 16:06:29 GMT -5
Anyway, long story short - I feel your pain, and I'd be interested to try your way next time! The cool thing is that there are many ways around these issues, so if one thing doesn't work, another probably will. I'm actually probably in the minority changing my 16:9 to 4:3 but that's just my own personal preference because I feel I lose less of the actual bits I want in the scene, by YMMV.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 8, 2011 3:28:40 GMT -5
Personally, I like the variety of screen composition and blocking that you can get in widescreen over 4:3, which is why I prefer editing to 16:9 if I had a choice.
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Post by franzeska on Dec 8, 2011 11:42:36 GMT -5
I'm actually probably in the minority changing my 16:9 to 4:3 but that's just my own personal preference because I feel I lose less of the actual bits I want in the scene, by YMMV. I liked the suggestion at that VVC panel of, in essence, trimming off a little bit on the top and bottom of the 4:3 footage and a little bit on the sides of the 16:9 to come up with a custom aspect ratio that keeps as much as possible of both.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 8, 2011 12:01:11 GMT -5
I liked the suggestion at that VVC panel of, in essence, trimming off a little bit on the top and bottom of the 4:3 footage and a little bit on the sides of the 16:9 to come up with a custom aspect ratio that keeps as much as possible of both. But that means double the work! ;D
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Post by franzeska on Dec 8, 2011 15:37:36 GMT -5
But that means double the work! ;D Heh. True. It's probably not something I'd bother with for most vids, but maybe if I were doing one with a lot of different sources with really gorgeous camera work where the look was the primary point of the vid... (As opposed to pairing vids where I do want them to look nice, but that's not my focus.)
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Post by dragonchic on Dec 8, 2011 15:43:35 GMT -5
I liked the suggestion at that VVC panel of, in essence, trimming off a little bit on the top and bottom of the 4:3 footage and a little bit on the sides of the 16:9 to come up with a custom aspect ratio that keeps as much as possible of both. Trying to wrap my head around how this would work - are there any examples?
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Post by franzeska on Dec 9, 2011 13:34:26 GMT -5
Trying to wrap my head around how this would work - are there any examples? I don't remember an example vid being mentioned. There was a diagram of what you'd be trying to achieve. Here is the post about the panel with the powerpoint presentations and handouts. The diagrams I'm thinking of are pages 37-44 of the PC/general powerpoint, but all three downloads are interesting.
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Post by dragonchic on Dec 11, 2011 1:04:13 GMT -5
Cool, thank you!
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Post by amnisias on May 13, 2012 10:03:46 GMT -5
I need some aspect ratio help since this is the first time I'm vidding with DVD rip source.
It's a PAL anamorphic widescreen that rips at 720x576. My programme settings (follwing intese studies of all the aspect ratio tutorials out there is as follows:
1024x576, 1:1 ratio
this works in terms of squishiness, but leaves me with very small black bars at the bottom and top. I've tried 1024x560, and that gets rid of the bars in the preview.
I noticed that on the DVD box the aspect ratio is given as 1.78x1, whereas most tutorials seem to be working with 1.77, could that account for the difference?
What should I do, stick to the established 1024x576 or change the hight to get rid of the black strips (can't really call them bars as they are so small). Has anybody else who's vidding with PAL widescreen ever come across this? Any advise would be welcome, I'm really keen to get started on the vid.
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Post by littleheaven on May 13, 2012 16:50:47 GMT -5
Personally, I'd probably leave the little black strips. As long as all your clips have them in the same place, you're not going to get a noticeably moving border, and when people view the finished vid it's not likely to be noticeable. I know I tend to watch a vid and not notice if it has black margins because that often blends into the frame of my media player.
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Post by amnisias on May 13, 2012 18:06:02 GMT -5
Thaks for getting back to me. Leaving them there would be the easiest option, yes, and what I normally would go for (because I'm lazy like that ;D). But it's a VVC premier, so I'm a bit worried what it'll look like on the Big Screen.
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Post by katbyrd on May 15, 2012 5:54:46 GMT -5
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