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Post by littleheaven on Dec 20, 2011 19:13:07 GMT -5
Oh, it says "I LOVE THIS SOURCE OMG" with every fibre of its being. It's the vid my heart wanted to make - it's just a bit different from the request. But, yeah, I worry too much about everything, so I'm probably going to keep doing that anyway, LOL.
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Post by xandra on Dec 20, 2011 19:32:22 GMT -5
YAY! This thread kicked off without me, nice. I've always struggled, after having a vid that people thought had deeper meaning living up to the reputation again. I'll go through cycles, sometimes having no trouble just vidding something because its fun and then other that make me think, "what the point? It's all before." For me it's the just process I can't talk about. I just tried and got about four words out before my brain shut offs. franzeska sometimes I envy you for being able to. astarte 16! You know how proud of you I am. Plus I owe you because you got me back on the vidding path too. I've only done 14. I might have to do three this week out of competition. |
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Post by dragonchic on Dec 20, 2011 19:47:25 GMT -5
Oh, it says "I LOVE THIS SOURCE OMG" with every fibre of its being. It's the vid my heart wanted to make - it's just a bit different from the request. But, yeah, I worry too much about everything, so I'm probably going to keep doing that anyway, LOL. The only time I'd be worried about matching a Festivids prompt is if the recipient specifically asked that you NOT vid a certain subject or if they said something like "The only thing I want from this source is an [X] vid." In most cases it seems prompts are just there for inspiration; the giftee will be too excited over having a vid for this tiny fandom to care if you used theirs or not. |
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 21, 2011 16:42:03 GMT -5
The only time I'd be worried about matching a Festivids prompt is if the recipient specifically asked that you NOT vid a certain subject. Oh, no worries there. It's just that they said something specific about what they would like to see and I've not really achieved that. But I'm almost done with the vid now and I'm quite happy with it so hopefully they will be too.  |
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Post by legoline on Dec 21, 2011 16:55:42 GMT -5
A few years ago when I first dabbled into vidding I made a vid without thinking too much of it; I just threw random clips on the timeline. One of the comments I received was, "But what does it all mean? I don't get it!"at which point I decided that apparently moving pictures wasn't my medium, because I hadn't even thought of doing meta with it.
In other words: I'm so, so glad it's not just me! ;D I still vid mostly like that--I tend to have a rough idea of the theme I want to "discuss" or what the video's supposed to be about, and then I just throw clips on the timeline and pretend it all has meaning. (I kid.) (Not.)
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Post by tm on Dec 21, 2011 22:17:40 GMT -5
Yes. Sometimes it just happens. But sometimes after visualizing a vid a certain way and it's not completely working, or I'm trying to force a round peg in a square hole, a magical thing happens. The character talks to me and tells me, "You're doing it wrong." And when I listen, I end up learning a lot from the character.
Sometimes I'm trying to force it in one character's POV when it's another character's story. Or sometimes I assume a character is going to react a certain way, and the character shakes me by the shoulders and tells me another story. I love it when that happens. It enriches my relationship with the character or characters.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that sometimes a vid just happens, and sometimes having a struggle makes vidding a richer experience.
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Post by obsessive24 on Dec 22, 2011 3:01:34 GMT -5
I guess what I'm trying to say is that sometimes a vid just happens, and sometimes having a struggle makes vidding a richer experience. Nicely put! I don't think having content is necessarily the same thing as having meta. I don't think you need to be deep and meaningful with every vid, but I do think that you have to have an idea about what your vid is saying. Even if it's got no narrative as such and "my vid is all about doctors dancing", for example, IMO it's not quite the same as just flinging random clips onto the timeline. As long as there's a certain amount of thought process behind the vid as opposed to no thought process about how the vid presents as a whole, I think that's sufficient. |
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Post by littleheaven on Dec 22, 2011 3:46:38 GMT -5
As long as there's a certain amount of thought process behind the vid as opposed to no thought process about how the vid presents as a whole, I think that's sufficient. Good point! I agree, I do think a vid needs to say something, even if it's a very basic idea that doesn't make you think profound thoughts. Otherwise it's just a collection of random images. I feel happy that at least I can identify theme in each of my vids. They all say something, even if the message is simplistic - Daniel gets whumped a lot, Connor is disappointed with Angel as a father figure, Buffy thinks Angel has turned into a man-whore... ;D I'd actually struggle to do a vid that didn't have some sort of basic premise, because how else would I choose what clips to use? I thought Dance Across The Floor would be freeing because it had very little narrative, but I actually struggled with the lack of structure and just throwing random dancing clips into the timeline. It was really hard to work out what went where. I guess I have a narrow comfort zone. I can't work with something too complex or too simple, LOL. |
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Post by amathela on Dec 22, 2011 9:27:56 GMT -5
littleheaven, I had the same problem with last year's festivid - I had a general feel I wanted to aim for, but not a specific structure (and the song didn't really help provide one), so it took until I had a finished draft before I could actually start to see some kind of shape emerging from the vid and know what I wanted to aim for in revision.
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Post by franzeska on Dec 28, 2011 13:56:27 GMT -5
This thread has been rattling around in the back of my brain for a while, and I've come up with a more concrete description of why the response to that one Miami Vice femslash vid of mine surprised me so much: I vidded the source as I saw it. I do tend to plan everything out, and I'm probably the opposite of this thread title overall, but--to me--that particular vid was just an expression and celebration of the canon as is. The elaborate planning all had to do with finding non-racist ways to portray the lyrics and trying to keep the other potential love interest characters out of the vid while juggling limited footage. However... Evidently, I was successful enough at showing how I see the source that other people were able to tell that it's not at all how they do. To them, it was making a statement: it was meta about the standard way to view the source and this other way to view it. To me, it was just my brain puked out onto a VVC screen. To me, that's the source of the most interesting meta. It all boils down to someone saying: "Your brain does not work like my brain". And that happens whether you overthink your vids or not. It's like that Three Point Characterization fic essay. |
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Post by thatyourefuse on Dec 28, 2011 15:33:13 GMT -5
Okay, this thread is relevant to my interests.
I tend to have the weirdest boom/bust cycle of inspiration ever; either I'm flying or I'm staring helplessly into space, and I think this might have to do with a tendency to second-guess myself the minute I start actually thinking about anything. (My amazingly productive days tend to be fueled either by "WHEEEEEEE SHINY" or "God dammit, I am getting this thing wrapped today and I don't care if it's terrible.")
(I also have a terrible problem with feeling like my work is shallow and obvious, which -- I think with the sane part of my brain -- is a case of "well, of course I feel that way, I know what it's about." And my brain does not quite work like other people's; what I think is transparent and elegant quite frequently turns out to be completely incomprehensible.)
I've been trying to work out a solution to this for ages and ages, and I haven't stumbled on one yet. Alack.
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Post by legoline on Jan 10, 2012 7:09:30 GMT -5
littleheaven, I had the same problem with last year's festivid - I had a general feel I wanted to aim for, but not a specific structure (and the song didn't really help provide one), so it took until I had a finished draft before I could actually start to see some kind of shape emerging from the vid and know what I wanted to aim for in revision. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one this happens to. Makes me feel better, actually thatyourefuseAre you me?  |
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Post by littleheaven on Jan 10, 2012 15:41:38 GMT -5
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Post by legoline on Jan 10, 2012 16:21:30 GMT -5
We're all just your sockpuppets, really |
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